From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS msn.com>
Subject: Very Delayed Overtaking Statistics #16 - Shanghai
Introduction for New Readers
============================
2007 is the tenth season that I have posted these amateur overtaking
analyses. My intention was to allow easier comparisons between Grands
Prix, seasons, circuits, drivers, etc.
In order to make any meaningful and/or useful observations it is essential
to produce the stats in as consistent a way as possible. To do this I have
devised several "rules" that I try to follow for each event. Please note
before posting to complain that I missed an obvious passing manoeuvre that
it has probably been excluded because of one of my "rules". The rules are
outlined in the "Disclaimer" below - please read it.
This analysis was mainly derived from the official FIA lap chart, which is
usually available from www.fia.com, http://forix.autosport.com or
www.autosport.com/f1/ on race day or the following day. The original charts
remain copyright of the FIA.
Other excellent Formula One websites are available. This analysis is
completely and totally unofficial.
Disclaimer
==========
For the purposes of this analysis, I only count what I will term "genuine"
passing manoeuvres, which means that I always exclude:
a) any place changes made during pit stops
b) all lapping or unlapping manoeuvres
c) any place changes made during the first lap
Hopefully, a) & b) are obvious. c) is because although lap one is often the
best opportunity to make up places, it is also not typical of the rest of
the race, and so, for the purpose of comparing races with other races and
seasons with other seasons, it is simpler to exclude lap one completely. I
do summarise the changes on lap one later in the post.
For the purposes of this analysis a "pit stop" encompasses the slowing down
lap and the out lap, since any passes during those laps MIGHT be due to the
driver slowing down or speeding up.
Passes are not counted in these stats UNLESS the gained position is held
until the start/finish line is next crossed and so gets recorded onto the
lap chart. I try to ignore anything that isn't recorded in the lap chart,
even if it was seen on TV.
These are the passes I read for the 2007 Chinese GP:
Lap Place Passer (Passed)
==================================================
2 11 Vettel (Button)
2 12 Trulli (Button)
3 19 Schumacher (Yamamoto)
3 18 Schumacher (Sutil)
3 20 Davidson (Yamamoto)
3 19 Davidson (Sutil)
3 21 Barrichello (Yamamoto)
3 20 Barrichello (Sutil)
4 6 Liuzzi (Heidfeld)
4 16 Rosberg (Fisichella)
5 15 Rosberg (Wurz) [team-mates]
5 19 Barrichello (Davidson)
6 8 Kubica (Webber)
6 17 Schumacher (Fisichella)
7 10 Vettel (Kovalainen)
7 14 Rosberg (Sato)
8 11 Trulli (Kovalainen)
8 15 Wurz (Sato)
8 16 Schumacher (Sato)
9 17 Fisichella (Sato)
11 15 Schumacher (Wurz)
12 18 Barrichello (Sato)
14 13 Rosberg (Button)
17 12 Rosberg (Kovalainen)
17 14 Schumacher (Button)
18 13 Schumacher (Kovalainen)
22 12 Schumacher (Rosberg)
27 10 Wurz (Trulli)
27 12 Button (Rosberg)
27 11 Button (Trulli)
28 6 Kubica (Massa)
28 13 Fisichella (Trulli)
29 1 Räikkönen (Hamilton)
29 10 Button (Wurz)
29 12 Fisichella (Coulthard)
29 14 Kovalainen (Trulli)
31 3 Kubica (Heidfeld) [team-mates]
35 4 Button (Vettel)
38 6 Fisichella (Liuzzi)
48 9 Kovalainen (Webber)
That's 40 passes in total, compared to 51 last year.
Most: 8 by Schumacher
The Last 10 Seasons
===================
For reasons of space I have removed the data for 1997 from this table. In
1997 there were 318 passes in 16 races, a race average of 20.
Grand Prix 2007 '06 '05 '04 '03 '02 '01 '00 '99 '98 Total Avg.
=============================================================================
1. Australia 11 23 5 9 38 19 18 13 41 7 184 18.4
2. Malaysia 12 16 7 20 16 27 47 31 11 -- 187 20.8
3. Bahrain 20 39 14 15 -- -- -- -- -- -- 88 22.0
4. Spain 5 7 3 7 19 10 10 4 4 12 81 8.1
5. Monaco 2 19 10 5 0 9 6 2 5 4 62 6.2
6. Canada 21 9 12 19 8 15 13 14 14 10 135 13.5
7. USA 14 5 0 16 36 21 21 51 - - 164 20.5
8. France 6 5 5 14 12 3 8 17 43 17 130 13.0
9. Britain 16 6 8 11 49 47 7 8 13 44 209 20.9
10. Europe/LUX 18 13 24 11 8 27 7 28 33 6 175 17.5
11. Hungary 5 32 12 6 25 1 5 10 7 11 114 11.4
12. Turkey 15 25 30 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 70 23.3
13. Italy 10 12 14 38 5 20 19 18 14 28 178 17.8
14. Belgium 15 -- 28 22 -- 5 8 16 15 11 120 15.0
15. Japan 46 13 12 21 20 2 17 8 4 19 162 16.2
16. China 40 51 20 17 -- -- -- -- -- -- 128 32.0
17. Brazil -- 18 6 41 48 30 26 22 27 13 231 25.7
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-- Argentina -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 11 11 11.0
-- Austria -- -- -- -- 20 18 17 20 30 29 134 22.3
-- Germany -- 21 9 29 14 25 15 42 16 10 181 20.1
-- San Marino -- 4 7 6 4 6 13 7 11 8 66 7.3
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Totals 256 318 226 307 322 285 257 311 288 240 2810 16.5
No. GP 16 18 19 18 16 17 17 17 16 16 170
Race Avg. 16 18 12 17 20 17 15 18 18 15 16
Note: In 1997-98 the Luxembourg GP [LUX] was held at the Nürburgring, and is
considered as equivalent to the European GP (1999-2007).
Top 30 Races for Overtaking (1997-2007)
=======================================
# Year GP Wet SC
===========================================
1. 51 1997 - Belgium Wet SC (1)
51 2000 - USA Wet
51 2006 - China Wet
4. 49 2003 - Britain SC (2)
5. 48 2003 - Brazil Wet SC (4) Race stopped
6. 47 1999 - Australia SC (2)
47 2001 - Malaysia Wet SC (1)
47 2002 - Britain Showers
9. 46 2007 - Japan Wet SC (2)
10. 44 1998 - Britain Wet SC (1)
11. 43 1999 - France Wet SC (1)
12. 42 2000 - Germany Wet SC (2)
13. 41 2004 - Brazil Wet track
14. 40 2007 - China Wet
15. 39 1997 - Argentine SC (1)
39 2006 - Bahrain
17. 38 2003 - Australia SC (2)
38 2004 - Italy
19. 36 1997 - Spain
36 2003 - USA Wet
21. 33 1999 - Europe Wet
22. 32 1997 - Brazil
32 2006 - Hungary Wet SC (1)
24. 30 1999 - Austria
30 2002 - Brazil
30 2005 - Turkey
27. 29 1997 - Monaco Wet
29 2004 - Germany
29 1998 - Austria SC (1)
30. 28 2000 - Europe Wet
28 1997 - Hungary
28 1998 - Italy
28 2005 - Belgium
Dry Races (Not wet & no Safety Car)
===================================
1. 39 2006 - Bahrain
2. 38 2004 - Italy
3. 36 1997 - Spain
4. 32 1997 - Brazil
5. 30 1999 - Austria
30 2002 - Brazil
30 2005 - Turkey
8. 29 2004 - Germany
9. 28 1997 - Hungary
28 1998 - Italy
28 2005 - Belgium
12. 27 1999 - Brazil
27 2002 - Malaysia
27 2002 - Europe
15. 25 2002 - Germany
25 2003 - Hungary
17. 24 2005 - Europe
18. 22 2000 - Brazil
19. 21 2001 - USA
21 2002 - USA
21 2004 - Japan
21 1997 - Austria
21 2006 - Germany
Drivers' Season Total
=====================
AUS MAS BRN ESP MON CDN USA FRA GBR Eur HUN TUR ITA BEL JPN CHN
=================================================================================
21 Massa 5 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 9 0 0 0 0 0 6 0
19 Fisichella 0 0 1 0 0 0 7 0 1 2 0 1 1 - 2 4
16 Button 0 0 - 0 0 - 1 0 0 0 0 9 1 0 1 4
15 Trulli 1 0 2 1 1 0 0 - 0 1 1 5 1 0 0 2
15 Rosberg 1 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 1 0 2 5
14 Sutil 1 - 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 3 7 0
14 Schumacher 0 1 1 - 0 1 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 1 8
14 Kubica 0 1 0 0 0 0 - 0 0 1 0 0 1 6 2 3
12 Alonso 0 0 0 0 0 5 1 3 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0
12 Sato 0 1 0 0 1 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 1 0
13 Liuzzi 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 - 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 1
12 Coulthard 1 0 8 0 0 1 - 0 0 1 0 0 - 0 1 0
11 Barrichello 1 2 1 0 0 1 - 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4
11 Wurz 0 5 1 - 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 2
11 Räikkönen 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 1
10 Kovalainen 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 - 1 0 0 0 0 2 2
8 Heidfeld 0 1 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 0
8 Davidson 1 0 0 1 0 0 2 - 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 2
6 Hamilton 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 1 0 0 0
6 Webber 0 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0
5 Vettel - - - - - - 0 - - - 1 0 0 1 1 2
2 Yamamoto - - - - - - - - - - 0 0 1 1 0 0
1 Albers 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 - - - - - - -
0 Speed 0 0 - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - - - - - -
0 Winkelhock - - - - - - - - - 0 - - - - - -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
256 11 12 20 5 2 21 14 6 16 18 5 15 10 15 46 40
No. of Times Overtaken
======================
AUS MAS BRN ESP MON CDN USA FRA GBR Eur HUN TUR ITA BEL JPN CHN
=================================================================================
23 Trulli 0 0 1 0 1 4 1 - 3 1 0 1 0 2 5 4
20 Button 2 3 - 0 0 - 2 0 1 0 1 1 1 3 2 4
17 Barrichello 0 0 4 0 0 1 - 0 1 5 0 2 0 2 2 0
17 Sutil 0 - 0 3 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 7 3
15 Davidson 1 1 2 0 0 1 1 - 1 0 0 1 1 1 4 1
15 Wurz 2 0 1 - 0 2 1 0 3 1 0 0 1 1 0 3
14 Yamamoto - - - - - - - - - - 0 2 2 0 7 3
14 Fisichella 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 1 0 1 - 3 2
16 Kovalainen 2 0 2 0 0 1 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 3 1 4
11 Liuzzi 0 0 0 1 0 2 1 - 1 0 1 2 0 1 1 1
10 Albers 0 0 1 1 0 4 3 1 0 - - - - - - -
10 Speed 1 2 - 0 0 0 3 2 2 0 - - - - - -
10 Schumacher 1 2 1 - 0 2 - 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 2 0
10 Sato 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 5
9 Rosberg 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 2 0 1 2
9 Coulthard 1 1 0 0 0 1 - 0 1 1 0 1 - 1 1 1
7 Webber 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 2
6 Heidfeld 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2
5 Kubica 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 3 0
4 Alonso 0 0 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0
4 Massa 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1
3 Hamilton 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1
3 Vettel - - - - - - 0 - - - 0 2 0 0 0 1
2 Winkelhock - - - - - - - - - 2 - - - - - -
2 Räikkönen 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
256 11 12 20 5 2 21 6 6 16 18 5 15 10 15 46 40
Gains/Losses on Lap One
=======================
Plus 4: Vettel
Plus 3: Liuzzi, Sato
Plus 2: Kovalainen
Plus 1: Heidfeld, Wurz
No change: Hamilton, Räikkönen, Massa, Alonso, Coulthard, Barrichello, Sutil,
Yamamoto
Minus 1: Kubica, Davidson, Fisichella
Minus 2: Webber, Button, Trulli
Minus 5: Rosberg
Notes: Ralf Schumacher spun on the opening lap, dropping from sixth to last.
Gains/Losses on Lap One in 2007
===============================
Driver Total (ASP) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 FRA GBR Eur HUN TUR ITA BEL JPN CHN
===============================================================================
Speed +16 (17.7) -1 +3 - +7 +4 -1 +2 0 +2 - - - - - - -
Kovalainen +15 (10.3) +1 +1 +3 -1 -1 +3 +1 - +1 - +2 0 0 +3 - +2
Coulthard +14 (13.6) +1 +1 +4 +1 -2 0 - +1 0 - 0 +3 +4 +1 - 0
Sutil +7 (20.2) -3 - - +2 -1 -1 +4 +1 0 - +1 0 0 +4 - 0
Barrichello +5 (15.2) +1 +1 -1 +1 +2 0 - +1 -3 - -3 +5 +1 0 - 0
Wurz +5 (15.2) -1 +1 0 - +1 +3 +1 +1 -1 0 -2 +2 +1 -2 - +1
Fisichella +4 (10.8) 0 +4 0 -3 0 +2 +2 0 +1 0 +2 -4 +1 - - -1
Heidfeld +4 (5.4) +1 0 0 0 +2 +1 +1 0 +1 - -1 +1 -1 -2 - +1
Kubica +3 (6.9) 0 +1 0 0 -1 0 - 0 0 0 +1 +1 0 +2 - -1
Hamilton +3 (2.6) +1 +2 0 +2 0 0 0 -1 0 - 0 -1 0 0 - 0
Liuzzi +3 (15.8) -1 -1 0 0 -1 0 +4 - 0 - -1 +2 -1 -1 - +3
Räikkönen +2 (3.6) 0 -1 -1 0 +4 -2 -2 +1 0 0 +1 +1 +1 0 - 0
Albers +1 (21.1) 0 -1 0 0 +1 -1 +1 +1 0 - - - - - - -
Yamamoto +1 (21.5) - - - - - - - - - - 0 0 0 +1 - 0
Sato +1 (17.2) 0 -5 +2 -1 +4 +1 -1 +2 0 - +4 -6 -1 -1 - +1
Webber 0 (9.3) 0 -1 0 +2 -2 -3 0 +1 +1 - +2 +1 +1 0 - -2
Massa 0 (4.4) +3 -2 0 0 0 +1 0 0 - - -2 0 0 0 - 0
Winkelhock 0 (22.0) - - - - - - - - - 0 - - - - - -
Vettel 0 (14.6) - - - - - - -4 - - - +2 0 - -2 - +4
Rosberg -3 (9.9) 0 -1 -3 +1 -1 +2 +2 0 +2 - 0 0 0 0 - -5
Alonso -7 (3.1) -2 +1 +1 -2 0 -1 0 0 0 - -2 -2 0 0 - 0
Button -8 (13.8) 0 -1 - +2 -1 - -6 +1 0 - -2 0 +1 0 - -2
Davidson -15 (15.8) - +3 +1 -4 -2 -1 -6 - 0 - +2 -4 -2 -1 - -1
Trulli -18 (9.3) -1 -1 -1 +4 -5 -1 +1 - -1 0 -4 - -4 -3 - -2
Schumacher -16 (12.2) +1 -4 -4 - -2 -2 - -2 -3 - 0 0 -1 +1 - -
Note: The number in brackets (ASP) is the average starting position in 2007
(grid position after any penalties have been applied). Obviously, a driver
who frequently starts from pole position has very little chance to gain
places while one who usually starts at the back of the grid has a good
chance of gaining places.
Most Passes 1998-2007
=====================
Using the data from my statistics these are all drivers who have achieved
50 or more passes.
197 R Barrichello *
155 R Schumacher *
154 M Schumacher
145 D Coulthard *
125 J Button *
121 G Fisichella *
108 J Villeneuve
103 O Panis
99 J Trulli *
95 JP Montoya
95 F Massa *
89 J Alesi
87 K Räikkönen *
75 T Sato *
74 F Alonso *
73 H-H Frentzen
71 N Heidfeld *
70 M Webber *
67 E Irvine
54 J Verstappen
50 M Salo
One other driver who didn't quite make the cut - Mika Häkkinen (49).
It's not unusual for me to make an occasional mistake or to omit something in
the above. I do, of course, take full responsibility for any errors. I would
be grateful to anyone for pointing them out, and will incorporate any
corrections in later posts.
--
Brian Lawrence
Wantage, Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com
From: "Michal Proniewicz" <proniewicz nospam.poczta.fm>
Subject: oznaczenie opon rajdowych michelin
Witam
Szukam oznaczenia opon rajdowych michelin ,a konkretnie kolcow.
Pozdrawiam
From: Przemyslaw Kempinski <kempa007 poczta.fm>
Subject: Re: GP Brazylii za niecale 4 godziny :-)
Dnia Mon, 22 Oct 2007 08:52:17 +0200, cgl <kryglow poczta.onet.pl>
napisał(a):
>Przy pierwszym Pit Stopie na 52 okrazenia do konca pokazano na grafice
>ze zatankowali go na 25 okrazen. Czysta matematyka pokazuje ze
>wystarczyl jeszcze 1 pitstop. Niestety BMW nie potrafi zmieniac taktyki
>w trakcie wyscigu jak to robi z powodzeniem Ferrari.
Tylko Kubek od poczatku bylo wiadomo, ze pojedize na 3 pit stopy... i
nic nie bylo zmieniane.
--
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http://www.formula1.pl
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From: "radekp konto.pl" <radekp konto.pl>
Subject: Re: Ice Man mistrzem ]:-D
Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:56:01 +0200, w <ffgsf2$vt0$1 news.onet.pl>, "PiSDeC"
<PiSDeC ppoqwei.net> napisa=B3(-a):
> BMW, Williams unpunished; title confirmed
> http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63567
> This means Kimi Raikkonen is confirmed as the 2007 world champion=20
Nie tak =B3atwo:
McLaren plans appeal to sustain Hamilton title dream:
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/071022100117.shtml
A =BFeby by=B3o =B6mieszniej :)
Alonso hopes McLaren`s appeal fails
http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2817516,00.html
--=20
IVRP Reaktywacja :) http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=3DExKWyLATNz0
From: "radekp konto.pl" <radekp konto.pl>
Subject: Re: GP Brazylii za niecale 4 godziny :-)
Mon, 22 Oct 2007 08:52:17 +0200, w <ffhhdp$rm6$1 news.onet.pl>, cgl
<kryglow poczta.onet.pl> napisa=B3(-a):
> Przy pierwszym Pit Stopie na 52 okrazenia do konca pokazano na grafice=20
> ze zatankowali go na 25 okrazen. Czysta matematyka pokazuje ze=20
> wystarczyl jeszcze 1 pitstop. Niestety BMW nie potrafi zmieniac taktyki=
=20
> w trakcie wyscigu jak to robi z powodzeniem Ferrari.
Nie przejecha=B3by 27 okr=B1=BFen na supersoftach.
Skonczy=B3by jak Hamilton w Chinach :).
--=20
IVRP Reaktywacja :) http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=3DExKWyLATNz0
From: "PJ" <no spam.com>
Subject: Re: Ale jaja - czyzby BMW i Williams zdyskwalifikowane?
> No comments...
Zaraz po wczorajszym wyścigu i po tym jak H nie został mistrzem miałem
napisać maila pod tytułem "Co teraz się stanie, żeby H wygrał". Ale
pomyślałem, że to byłby bezsens. Okazuje się jednak, że nie do końca.
Ponieważ pierwsza decyzja FIA była taka, żeby nikogo nie ruszać a teraz jest
protest Maka to myślę, że dalej nic się nie zmieni.
Gdyby to Ferrari protestowało to spoko, protest byłby uwzględniony :-)
A tu nie ferrari tylko przeciw ferrari i to jeszcze Mak.....
Bernie się juz tym zajmie :-)
A wystarczyło Makowym kierowcom punkty zabrać i sytuacja by była jasna już
jakiś czas temu :-)
PJ
From: cgl <kryglow poczta.onet.pl>
Subject: Re: GP Brazylii za niecale 4 godziny :-)
Przemyslaw Kempinski pisze:
> Dnia Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:44:41 +0200, cgl <kryglow poczta.onet.pl>
> napisał(a):
>
>> radekp konto.pl pisze:
>>> A dodam, że Rosberg zaczyna mnie zadziwiać.
>>> Zawsze w tym sezonie jeździł bardzo dobrze, ale teraz jest już rewelacją.
>>> Fakt, że cały zespół pracuje chyba tylko dla niego.
>>>
>> Moze ten dzisiejszy wyscig 'zalatwi' mu miejsce w McLarenie? Swoja droga
>> taktyka w przypadku BMW nie istnieje. Praktycznie w kazdym wyscigu
>> wybieraja ta zla wersje.
>
> No a co w tej bylo zle? Obie sie sprawdzily. Kubek mimo iz wiecej
> czasu spedzil na pit lane a byl przed Heidfeldem ;-) No i mial pod
> koneic wyscigu ograniczona moc bo zostal poproszony przez zespol o
> zredukowanie rpm na silniku z powodu przegrzewania sie.
>
> Rosberg faktycznie w porownaniu do swoich kolegow z zespolu wypada
> rewelacyjnie...
>
Przy pierwszym Pit Stopie na 52 okrazenia do konca pokazano na grafice
ze zatankowali go na 25 okrazen. Czysta matematyka pokazuje ze
wystarczyl jeszcze 1 pitstop. Niestety BMW nie potrafi zmieniac taktyki
w trakcie wyscigu jak to robi z powodzeniem Ferrari.
From: "PiSDeC" <PiSDeC ppoqwei.net>
Subject: Re: Ice Man mistrzem ]:-D
Użytkownik "Przemyslaw Kempinski" <kempa007 poczta.fm> napisał w wiadomości
news:5nonh3559ctvrbbtfict36e6b211sf4o9i 4ax.com...
> narazie tylko eurosport tak napisal :/
Nie tylko :)
BMW, Williams unpunished; title confirmed
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63567
This means Kimi Raikkonen is confirmed as the 2007 world champion
From: Robert =?iso-8859-2?Q?R=EAdziak?= <rekin gm.wkurw.org>
Subject: Re: Ice Man mistrzem ]:-D
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:02:14 +0200, Przemyslaw Kempinski
<kempa007 poczta.fm> wrote:
>> http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/10/7023.html
>
> to sie pozniej pojawilo ;-) ale jaja jak berety w tej F1 :((( az sie
> plakac chce. Nie ma Schumachera- niby miala sie ozysic atmosfera po
> odejsciu Mistrza, a tu takie numery :(
Na szczęście wynik został utrzymany. Ale smrodek pozostanie.
r.
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From: Przemyslaw Kempinski <kempa007 poczta.fm>
Subject: Re: Ice Man mistrzem ]:-D
Dnia Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:58:39 +0000 (UTC), Robert Rędziak
<rekin gm.wkurw.org> napisał(a):
>On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:35:45 +0200, Przemyslaw Kempinski
><kempa007 poczta.fm> wrote:
>
>> Bernie Ecclestone jeszcze nie wie, ze dzisiejszy wynik przysporzy F1
>> nowych fanow :-)
>
> Na pewno?
>
> http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/10/7023.html
to sie pozniej pojawilo ;-) ale jaja jak berety w tej F1 :((( az sie
plakac chce. Nie ma Schumachera- niby miala sie ozysic atmosfera po
odejsciu Mistrza, a tu takie numery :(
--
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http://www.formula1.pl
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From: Robert =?iso-8859-2?Q?R=EAdziak?= <rekin gm.wkurw.org>
Subject: Re: Ice Man mistrzem ]:-D
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:35:45 +0200, Przemyslaw Kempinski
<kempa007 poczta.fm> wrote:
> Bernie Ecclestone jeszcze nie wie, ze dzisiejszy wynik przysporzy F1
> nowych fanow :-)
Na pewno?
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/10/7023.html
r.
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From: "stalker" <stalker ppoqwei.net>
Subject: Re: Ale jaja - czyzby BMW i Williams zdyskwalifikowane?
Użytkownik "Przemyslaw Kempinski" <kempa007 poczta.fm> napisał w wiadomości
news:9chnh3tnsepkehrr1asgvbv83vtikvbs9k 4ax.com...
> No comments...
>
To byl by koniec F1
Wystarczy jak Ferrari BMW Renault i Williams sie wycofa
From: Przemyslaw Kempinski <kempa007 poczta.fm>
Subject: Ale jaja - czyzby BMW i Williams zdyskwalifikowane?
No comments...
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From: Przemyslaw Kempinski <kempa007 poczta.fm>
Subject: Re: Ice Man mistrzem ]:-D
Dnia Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:36:09 +0200, "ALEX Lodzermensch"
<kill spamers.us> napisał(a):
>Nieprawdopodobne a jednak stało się ]:-D Choć wiem że Massa *musiał*
>przepuścić Raikkonena. Kibicowałem też Hamiltonowi, ale cóż "tylko"
>wicemistrza ma
Jak Kimi jezdzil w McLarenie nie kibicowalem mu ze wzgledu na zespol
:( i byc moze nawet na tej grupie kilka lat temu powiedzialem, ze
zanczne mu kibicowac jak bedzie w Ferrari :-) i prosze z "Czerwonymi"
zdobyl to czego nie mogl ze Srebrnymi Strzalami, a tam potrzebowal
duzo mniej szczescia. Co jak co ale podsumowujac kariere Kimasa to
nalezal mu sie ten tytul :-) Juz sobie moge wyobrazic imprezke
urodzinowo- zwycieska...
--
Przemyslaw Kempinski
http://www.formula1.pl
Formuła 1 - Dziel Pasję
From: Przemyslaw Kempinski <kempa007 poczta.fm>
Subject: Re: Ice Man mistrzem ]:-D
Dnia Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:36:09 +0200, "ALEX Lodzermensch"
<kill spamers.us> napisał(a):
>Nieprawdopodobne a jednak stało się ]:-D Choć wiem że Massa *musiał*
>przepuścić Raikkonena. Kibicowałem też Hamiltonowi, ale cóż "tylko"
>wicemistrza ma
Bernie Ecclestone jeszcze nie wie, ze dzisiejszy wynik przysporzy F1
nowych fanow :-)
--
Przemyslaw Kempinski
http://www.formula1.pl
Formuła 1 - Dziel Pasję
From: Przemyslaw Kempinski <kempa007 poczta.fm>
Subject: Re: GP Brazylii za niecale 4 godziny :-)
Dnia Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:44:41 +0200, cgl <kryglow poczta.onet.pl>
napisał(a):
>radekp konto.pl pisze:
>> A dodam, że Rosberg zaczyna mnie zadziwiać.
>> Zawsze w tym sezonie jeździł bardzo dobrze, ale teraz jest już rewelacją.
>> Fakt, że cały zespół pracuje chyba tylko dla niego.
>>
>Moze ten dzisiejszy wyscig 'zalatwi' mu miejsce w McLarenie? Swoja droga
> taktyka w przypadku BMW nie istnieje. Praktycznie w kazdym wyscigu
>wybieraja ta zla wersje.
No a co w tej bylo zle? Obie sie sprawdzily. Kubek mimo iz wiecej
czasu spedzil na pit lane a byl przed Heidfeldem ;-) No i mial pod
koneic wyscigu ograniczona moc bo zostal poproszony przez zespol o
zredukowanie rpm na silniku z powodu przegrzewania sie.
Rosberg faktycznie w porownaniu do swoich kolegow z zespolu wypada
rewelacyjnie...
--
Przemyslaw Kempinski
http://www.formula1.pl
Formuła 1 - Dziel Pasję
From: cgl <kryglow poczta.onet.pl>
Subject: Re: GP Brazylii za niecale 4 godziny :-)
radekp konto.pl pisze:
> A dodam, że Rosberg zaczyna mnie zadziwiać.
> Zawsze w tym sezonie jeździł bardzo dobrze, ale teraz jest już rewelacją.
> Fakt, że cały zespół pracuje chyba tylko dla niego.
>
Moze ten dzisiejszy wyscig 'zalatwi' mu miejsce w McLarenie? Swoja droga
taktyka w przypadku BMW nie istnieje. Praktycznie w kazdym wyscigu
wybieraja ta zla wersje.
From: "radekp konto.pl" <radekp konto.pl>
Subject: Re: GP Brazylii za niecale 4 godziny :-)
A dodam, =BFe Rosberg zaczyna mnie zadziwia=E6.
Zawsze w tym sezonie je=BCdzi=B3 bardzo dobrze, ale teraz jest ju=BF =
rewelacj=B1.
=46akt, =BFe ca=B3y zesp=F3=B3 pracuje chyba tylko dla niego.
--=20
IVRP Reaktywacja :) http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=3DExKWyLATNz0
From: "ALEX Lodzermensch" <kill spamers.us>
Subject: Ice Man mistrzem ]:-D
Nieprawdopodobne a jednak stało się ]:-D Choć wiem że Massa *musiał*
przepuścić Raikkonena. Kibicowałem też Hamiltonowi, ale cóż "tylko"
wicemistrza ma
--
ALEX Lodzermensch, Tenno Heika Banzai ]:-D
From: "radekp konto.pl" <radekp konto.pl>
Subject: Re: GP Brazylii za niecale 4 godziny :-)
Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:18:20 +0200, w
<gngmh3tob6mjacf6l3vbqonk97k3s15h78 4ax.com>, Przemyslaw Kempinski
<kempa007 poczta.fm> napisa=B3(-a):
> Moim zdaniem wyscig bedzie do konca trzymal
> w napieciu. Hamilton moze popelnic blad na starcie ale chyba caly
> swiat po za Wielka Brytania mu wybaczy...=20
Ufff!
Nie spodziewa=B3em si=EA a=BF takiej dramaturgii, ale po cichu liczy=B3em=
na ni=B1
(przed sezonem postawi=B3em na Fina :)) ).
--=20
IVRP Reaktywacja :) http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=3DExKWyLATNz0
From: Przemyslaw Kempinski <kempa007 poczta.fm>
Subject: GP Brazylii za niecale 4 godziny :-)
No to GP Brazylii wyloni nam Mistrza. Miejmy nadzieje, ze nie spelnia
sie najczarniejsze scenariusze ;-) Alonso i Raikkonen przyatakuja
zagubionego Hamiltona na pierwszym luku? Czy moze Anglik pokaze klase
i nie peknie mu psychika? Moim zdaniem wyscig bedzie do konca trzymal
w napieciu. Hamilton moze popelnic blad na starcie ale chyba caly
swiat po za Wielka Brytania mu wybaczy...
--
Przemyslaw Kempinski
http://www.formula1.pl
Formuła 1 - Dziel Pasję
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS msn.com>
Subject: 2007 - 17 - BRA - Qualifying
Brazilian GP
Qualifying - Saturday 20 October 2007 14:00
Qualifying-1
## Driver Team Time Lps Gap %Gap Km/hr mph
===========================================================================
5 F Massa Ferrari 1'12.303 4 0.000 0.000 214.547 133.313
1 F Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1'12.895 6 0.592 0.819 212.805 132.231
6 K Räikkönen Ferrari 1'13.016 4 0.713 0.986 212.452 132.012
2 L Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1'13.033 3 0.730 1.010 212.403 131.981
15 M Webber Red Bull-Renault 1'13.081 6 0.778 1.076 212.263 131.894
10 R Kubica BMW Sauber-BMW 1'13.085 7 0.782 1.082 212.251 131.887
14 D Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1'13.264 6 0.961 1.329 211.733 131.565
12 J Trulli Toyota 1'13.470 7 1.167 1.614 211.139 131.196
9 N Heidfeld BMW Sauber-BMW 1'13.472 6 1.169 1.617 211.133 131.192
3 G Fisichella Renault 1'13.482 6 1.179 1.631 211.105 131.174
18 V Liuzzi T Rosso-Ferrari 1'13.607 6 1.304 1.804 210.746 130.952
8 R Barrichello Honda 1'13.661 6 1.358 1.878 210.592 130.856
16 N Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1'13.707 6 1.404 1.942 210.460 130.774
11 R Schumacher Toyota 1'13.767 6 1.464 2.025 210.289 130.668
19 S Vettel T Rosso-Ferrari 1'13.853 6 1.550 2.144 210.044 130.515
7 J Button Honda 1'14.054 6 1.751 2.422 209.474 130.161
===========================================================================
4 H Kovalainen Renault 1'14.078 7 1.775 2.455 209.406 130.119
22 T Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1'14.098 6 1.795 2.483 209.350 130.084
17 K Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1'14.417 6 2.114 2.924 208.452 129.526
23 A Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1'14.596 6 2.293 3.171 207.952 129.215
20 A Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 1'15.217 3 2.914 4.030 206.235 128.149
21 S Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari 1'15.487 6 3.184 4.404 205.498 127.690
Qualifying-2
## Driver Team Time Lps Gap %Gap Km/hr mph
===========================================================================
6 K Räikkönen Ferrari 1'12.161 3 0.000 0.000 214.969 133.576
2 L Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1'12.296 3 0.135 0.187 214.568 133.326
5 F Massa Ferrari 1'12.374 3 0.213 0.295 214.337 133.183
1 F Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1'12.637 3 0.476 0.660 213.561 132.700
10 R Kubica BMW Sauber-BMW 1'12.641 3 0.480 0.665 213.549 132.693
15 M Webber Red Bull-Renault 1'12.683 6 0.522 0.723 213.425 132.616
16 N Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1'12.752 6 0.591 0.819 213.223 132.491
12 J Trulli Toyota 1'12.832 6 0.671 0.930 212.989 132.345
14 D Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1'12.846 6 0.685 0.949 212.948 132.320
9 N Heidfeld BMW Sauber-BMW 1'12.888 6 0.727 1.007 212.825 132.243
===========================================================================
8 R Barrichello Honda 1'12.932 6 0.771 1.068 212.697 132.164
3 G Fisichella Renault 1'12.968 6 0.807 1.118 212.592 132.098
19 S Vettel T Rosso-Ferrari 1'13.058 6 0.897 1.243 212.330 131.936
18 V Liuzzi T Rosso-Ferrari 1'13.251 6 1.090 1.511 211.770 131.588
11 R Schumacher Toyota 1'13.315 6 1.154 1.599 211.586 131.473
7 J Button Honda 1'13.469 6 1.308 1.813 211.142 131.198
Qualifying-3
## Driver Team Time Lps Gap %Gap Km/hr mph
===========================================================================
5 F Massa Ferrari 1'11.931 13 0.000 0.000 215.657 134.003
2 L Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1'12.082 13 0.151 0.210 215.205 133.722
6 K Räikkönen Ferrari 1'12.322 13 0.391 0.544 214.491 133.278
1 F Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1'12.356 13 0.425 0.591 214.390 133.216
15 M Webber Red Bull-Renault 1'12.928 12 0.997 1.386 212.708 132.171
9 N Heidfeld BMW Sauber-BMW 1'13.081 12 1.150 1.599 212.263 131.894
10 R Kubica BMW Sauber-BMW 1'13.129 13 1.198 1.665 212.124 131.808
12 J Trulli Toyota 1'13.195 12 1.264 1.757 211.933 131.689
14 D Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1'13.272 12 1.341 1.864 211.710 131.550
16 N Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1'13.477 12 1.546 2.149 211.119 131.183
Final Grid Order
Pos # Driver Team Time Lps Changes
================================================================
1 5 F Massa Ferrari 1'11.931 20
2 2 L Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1'12.082 19
3 6 K Räikkönen Ferrari 1'12.322 20
4 1 F Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1'12.356 22
5 15 M Webber Red Bull-Renault 1'12.928 24
6 9 N Heidfeld BMW Sauber-BMW 1'13.081 24
7 10 R Kubica BMW Sauber-BMW 1'13.129 23
8 12 J Trulli Toyota 1'13.195 25
9 14 D Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1'13.272 24
10 16 N Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1'13.477 24
================================================================
11 8 R Barrichello Honda 1'12.932 12
12 3 G Fisichella Renault 1'12.968 12
13 19 S Vettel T Rosso-Ferrari 1'13.058 12
14 18 V Liuzzi T Rosso-Ferrari 1'13.251 12
15 11 R Schumacher Toyota 1'13.315 12
16 7 J Button Honda 1'13.469 12
================================================================
17 4 H Kovalainen Renault 1'14.078 7
18 22 T Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1'14.098 6
19 17 K Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1'14.417 6
20 23 A Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1'14.596 6
21 20 A Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 1'15.217 3
22 21 S Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari 1'15.487 6
Weather: Air temp 32
Track temp 56
Humidity 37%
Wind 2.1 mps
Pressure 926.6 mb
Dry
Notes: Adrian Sutil's Spyker stopped on the circuit after completeing a single
quick lap in Q1. He suffered a loss of fuel pressure.
--
Brian Lawrence
Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com
Wantage, Oxon.
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS msn.com>
Subject: 2007 - 17 - BRA - Practice 3
Brazilian GP
Third Practice - Saturday 20 October 2007 - 11:00-12:00
## Driver Team Time Lps Gap %Gap Km/hr mph
===========================================================================
5 F Massa Ferrari 1'11.810 22 0.000 0.000 216.020 134.229
2 L Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1'11.934 18 0.124 0.173 215.648 133.997
6 K Räikkönen Ferrari 1'11.942 21 0.132 0.184 215.624 133.982
15 M Webber Red Bull-Renault 1'12.446 14 0.636 0.886 214.124 133.050
12 J Trulli Toyota 1'12.461 23 0.651 0.907 214.079 133.023
8 R Barrichello Honda 1'12.478 24 0.668 0.930 214.029 132.991
9 N Heidfeld BMW Sauber-BMW 1'12.579 25 0.769 1.071 213.731 132.806
1 F Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1'12.594 12 0.784 1.092 213.687 132.779
19 S Vettel T Rosso-Ferrari 1'12.767 18 0.957 1.333 213.179 132.463
16 N Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1'12.823 20 1.013 1.411 213.015 132.361
18 V Liuzzi T Rosso-Ferrari 1'12.893 20 1.083 1.508 212.811 132.234
3 G Fisichella Renault 1'12.913 20 1.103 1.536 212.752 132.198
7 J Button Honda 1'13.015 22 1.205 1.678 212.455 132.013
11 R Schumacher Toyota 1'13.046 23 1.236 1.721 212.365 131.957
4 H Kovalainen Renault 1'13.090 20 1.280 1.782 212.237 131.878
14 D Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1'13.117 12 1.307 1.820 212.159 131.829
23 A Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1'13.299 16 1.489 2.074 211.632 131.502
22 T Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1'13.331 16 1.521 2.118 211.539 131.444
17 K Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1'13.474 17 1.664 2.317 211.128 131.189
10 R Kubica BMW Sauber-BMW 1'13.525 14 1.715 2.388 210.981 131.098
20 A Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 1'13.684 21 1.874 2.610 210.526 130.815
21 S Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari 1'13.872 21 2.062 2.871 209.990 130.482
Weather: Air temp 29
Track temp 51
Humidity 44%
Wind 2.9 mps
Pressure 929.2 mb
Dry (windy)
--
Brian Lawrence
Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com
Wantage, Oxfordshire, UK
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS msn.com>
Subject: 2007 - 17 - BRA - Practice 2
Brazilian GP
Second Practice - Friday 19 October 2007 - 14:00-15:30
## Driver Team Time Lps Gap %Gap Km/hr mph
===========================================================================
2 L Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1'12.767 27 0.000 0.000 213.179 132.463
1 F Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1'12.889 28 0.122 0.168 212.822 132.242
5 F Massa Ferrari 1'13.075 30 0.308 0.423 212.281 131.905
6 K Räikkönen Ferrari 1'13.112 30 0.345 0.474 212.173 131.838
3 G Fisichella Renault 1'13.549 22 0.782 1.075 210.912 131.055
10 R Kubica BMW Sauber-BMW 1'13.587 34 0.820 1.127 210.804 130.987
16 N Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1'13.655 33 0.888 1.220 210.609 130.866
17 K Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1'13.664 38 0.897 1.233 210.583 130.850
14 D Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1'13.706 30 0.939 1.290 210.463 130.776
9 N Heidfeld BMW Sauber-BMW 1'13.785 44 1.018 1.399 210.238 130.636
11 R Schumacher Toyota 1'13.829 29 1.062 1.459 210.113 130.558
4 H Kovalainen Renault 1'13.879 28 1.112 1.528 209.970 130.469
8 R Barrichello Honda 1'13.892 45 1.125 1.546 209.933 130.447
7 J Button Honda 1'14.095 44 1.328 1.825 209.358 130.089
18 V Liuzzi T Rosso-Ferrari 1'14.152 33 1.385 1.903 209.197 129.989
12 J Trulli Toyota 1'14.179 25 1.412 1.940 209.121 129.942
19 S Vettel T Rosso-Ferrari 1'14.409 37 1.642 2.257 208.475 129.540
22 T Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1'14.431 27 1.664 2.287 208.413 129.502
23 A Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1'14.477 31 1.710 2.350 208.284 129.422
15 M Webber Red Bull-Renault 1'14.543 35 1.776 2.441 208.100 129.307
20 A Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 1'15.095 35 2.328 3.199 206.570 128.357
21 S Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari 1'15.715 32 2.948 4.051 204.879 127.306
Weather: Air temp 20
Track temp 26
Humidity 86%
Wind 1.4 mps
Pressure 927.1 mb
Wet track (no rain)
Notes: The session began with some wet patches remaining and early runners were
on intermediate tyres, but with conditions improving most were back in to
switch to dries/grooves. No significant incidents.
--
Brian Lawrence
Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com
Wantage, Oxfordshire, UK
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS msn.com>
Subject: Delayed Engine Usage #16 - Shanghai
Engine Usage So Far - after Chinese GP
E# - Number of engines used by driver/team/engine supplier in 2007
Km. - Distance covered in practice/qualifying/race in 2007
Avg. - Average distance per engine in 2007
NENGP - New Engine at Next GP
FCNGP - Free engine Change at Next GP (possible)
Averages in [] indicate that the driver/team/engine supplier is halfway
through a two-race cycle.
C# Driver(s) Engine E# Km. Avg. Next
==================================================================
12 Jarno Trulli Toyota RVX-07 8 7,342 918 NENGP
2 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes FO108T 8 7,071 884 NENGP
6 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 056 8 6,984 873 NENGP
11 Ralf Schumacher Toyota RVX-07 8 6,365 796 NENGP
15 Mark Webber Renault RS27 8 6,276 785 NENGP
17 Alex Wurz Toyota RVX-07 8 6,190 774 NENGP
19 S Speed/S Vettel Ferrari 056 8 4,938 617 NENGP
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
3 G Fisichella Renault RS27 9 7,630 848 NENGP
4 Heikki Kovalainen Renault RS27 9 7,634 [848]
5 Felipe Massa Ferrari 056 9 6,993 777 NENGP
1 Fernando Alonso Mercedes FO108T 9 6,962 [774]
9 Nick Heidfeld BMW P86/7 9 7,623 [847]
10 R Kubica/S Vettel BMW P86/7 9 7,758 [862] FCNGP
16 Nico Rosberg Toyota RVX-07 9 6,933 780 NENGP
22 Takuma Sato Honda RA807E 9 6,238 [693]
20 Adrian Sutil Ferrari 056 9 5,771 [641] FCNGP
14 David Coulthard Renault RS27 9 5,700 633 NENGP
21 Albers/Wink/Yamam Ferrari 056 9 5,583 620 NENGP
18 Vitantonio Liuzzi Ferrari 056 9 5,524 614 NENGP
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
8 Rubens Barrichello Honda RA807E 10 6,969 [697]
23 Anthony Davidson Honda RA807E 10 5,997 [600] FCNGP
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
7 Jenson Button Honda RA807E 11 6,493 [590]
------------------------------------------------------------------
195 144,974 [744]
Team Engine E# Km. Avg.
==================================================
Toyota Toyota RVX-07 16 13,707 857
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
McLaren Mercedes FO108T 17 14,033 [825]
Ferrari Ferrari 056 17 13,977 822
Williams Toyota RVX-07 17 13,123 777
Red Bull Renault RS27 17 11,976 704
Toro Rosso Ferrari 056 17 10,462 615
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
BMW Sauber BMW P86/7 18 15,381 [855]
Renault Renault RS27 18 15,264 [848]
Spyker Ferrari 056 18 11,354 [631]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Super Aguri Honda RA807E 19 12,235 [644]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Honda Honda RA807E 21 13,462 [641]
--------------------------------------------------
195 144,974 [744]
Engine E# Km. Avg. Team(s)
============================================================
BMW P86/7 18 15,381 [855] BMW Sauber
Mercedes FO108T 17 14,033 [825] McLaren
Toyota RVX-07 33 26,830 816 Toyota, Williams
Renault RS27 35 27,240 [778] Renault, Red Bull
Ferrari 056 52 35,793 [688] Ferrari, Toro Rosso, Spyker
Honda RA807E 40 25,697 [642] Honda, Super Aguri
------------------------------------------------------------
195 144,974 [744]
Enforced Engine Changes (Incurring 10-place penalty)
====================================================
GP Engine C# Team Driver When
====================================================================
01 AUS Ferrari 056 5 Ferrari F Massa After Qual
01 AUS Ferrari 056 21 Spyker C Albers Race day
02 MAS Honda RA807E 8 Honda R Barrichello Race day
06 CDN Renault RS27 4 Renault H Kovalainen Before Qual
08 FRA Ferrari 056 20 Spyker A Sutil After Qual
12 TUR Honda RA807E 7 Honda J Button After Qual
12 TUR Honda RA807E 8 Honda R Barrichello After Qual
14 BEL BMW P86/7 10 BMW Sauber R Kubica Before Qual
14 BEL Renault RS27 3 Renault G Fisichella After Qual
15 JPN Toyota RVX-07 16 Williams N Rosberg After FP-2
15 JPN Ferrari 056 18 Toro Rosso V Liuzzi Race day
Number of enforced changes
==========================
Ferrari 4
Honda 3
Renault 2
BMW 1
Toyota 1
Mercedes 0
--------------
11
Free Engine Changes (No penalty)
================================
GP Engine C# Team Driver When
====================================================================
02 MAS Renault RS27 14 Red Bull D Coulthard Pre-event
04 ESP Honda RA807E 9 Honda J Button Pre-event
04 ESP Honda RA807E 22 S Aguri T Sato Pre-event
04 ESP Honda RA897E 23 S Aguri A Davidson Pre-event
08 FRA Toyota RVX-07 16 Williams N Rosberg Pre-event
08 FRA Ferrari 056 18 Toro Rosso V Liuzzi Pre-event
09 GBR Honda RA807E 23 S Aguri A Davidson Pre-event
10 Eur Honda RA807E 23 S Aguri A Davidson Pre-event
15 JPN Renault RS27 3 Renault G Fisichella Pre-event
15 JPN Honda RA807E 7 Honda J Button Pre-event
15 JPN Renault RS27 14 Red Bull D Coulthard Pre-event
16 CHN Mercedes FO108T 1 McLaren F Alonso Pre-event
16 CHN Honda RA807E 7 Honda J Button Pre-event
16 CHN BMW P86/7 9 BMW Sauber N Heidfeld Pre-event
Number of free changes
======================
Honda 7
Renault 3
Ferrari 1
Toyota 1
BMW 1
Mercedes 1
--------------
14
All engine usage data from www.forix.autosport.com.
What was the situation after 16 events in 2006?
2006 2007
=================================
Engines used 214 195
Total km. 169,169 144,974 [1]
Average km. 791 744 [1]
Enforced changes 33 11
'Free' changes 28 14
1. The reason for the reduction in distance covered is because the FIA
no longer count the Friday practice sessions as part of the event for
engines. Teams now use different engines on Friday and swap to the
'race' engines for Saturday/Sunday.
--
Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS msn.com>
Subject: Delayed Top Qualifying Speeds #16 - Shanghai
These comparisons only use the top speeds recorded through the regular speed
trap during the Saturday Qualifying sessions. This means that, at most events,
there are comparisons that are fairly meaningless because of some problem that
affected one or more drivers during one particular session.
The first table compares the 2006 team/driver combination with the equivalent
2007 team/driver - the same driver if possible, otherwise the 2006 driver is
compared to his 2007 replacement. This analysis is intended as a team comparison,
but the first table is also of some interest - but should be read with caution.
Chinese GP - 2006-07
2006 2007
Team-Engine Driver km/h Team-Engine Driver km/h Dif. %Diff.
====================================================================================
Williams-Cosworth Rosberg 294.0 Williams-Toyota Rosberg 307.6 +13.6 +4.63
Toyota R Schumacher 294.8 Toyota Schumacher 307.6 +12.8 +4.34
Toyota Trulli 294.3 Toyota Trulli 306.9 +12.6 +4.28
Spyker MF1-Toyota Albers 293.3 Spyker-Ferrari Yamamoto 302.2 +8.9 +3.03
Spyker MF1-Toyota Monteiro 292.8 Spyker-Ferrari Sutil 301.6 +8.8 +3.01
Ferrari Massa 305.5 Ferrari Massa 313.6 +8.1 +2.65
Honda Barrichello 298.5 Honda Barrichello 306.4 +7.9 +2.65
Ferrari M Schumacher 306.9 Ferrari Räikkönen 314.7 +7.8 +2.54
Williams-Cosworth Webber 298.5 Williams-Toyota Wurz 305.4 +6.9 +2.31
McLaren-Mercedes Räikkönen 306.0 McLaren-Mercedes Alonso 312.4 +6.4 +2.09
Red Bull-Ferrari Coulthard 302.0 Red Bull-Renault Coulthard 307.8 +5.8 +1.92
T Rosso-Cosworth Speed 301.5 T Rosso-Ferrari Vettel 305.5 +4.0 +1.33
Honda Button 302.0 Honda Button 305.1 +3.1 +1.03
S Aguri-Honda Sato 295.6 S Aguri-Honda Sato 297.6 +2.0 +0.68
S Aguri-Honda Yamamoto 302.7 S Aguri-Honda Davidson 304.1 +1.4 +0.46
McLaren-Mercedes de la Rosa 309.7 McLaren-Mercedes Hamilton 311.0 +1.3 +0.42
Red Bull-Ferrari Doornbos 305.8 Red Bull-Renault Webber 306.9 +1.1 +0.36
BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld 303.3 BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld 303.8 +0.5 +0.16
T Rosso-Cosworth Liuzzi 305.1 T Rosso-Ferrari Liuzzi 305.2 +0.1 +0.03
BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica 306.3 BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica 305.5 -0.8 -0.26
Renault Alonso 311.5 Renault Kovalainen 308.2 -3.3 -1.06
Renault Fisichella 311.9 Renault Fisichella 307.5 -4.4 -1.41
The second table compares the best speed achieved by each team (IE both drivers),
and, as such, is a better
measure of the year-on-year change.
2006 2007
Team-Engine km/h Team-Engine km/h Diff. %Diff.
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1. Toyota 294.8 Toyota 307.6 +12.8 +4.34
2. Williams-Cosworth 298.5 Williams-Toyota 307.6 +9.1 +3.05
3. Spyker MF1-Toyota 293.3 Spyker-Ferrari 302.2 +8.9 +3.03
4. Ferrari 306.9 Ferrari 314.7 +7.8 +2.54
5. Honda 302.0 Honda 306.4 +4.4 +1.46
6. McLaren-Mercedes 309.7 McLaren-Mercedes 312.4 +2.7 +0.87
7. Red Bull-Ferrari 305.8 Red Bull-Renault 307.8 +2.0 +0.65
8. S Aguri-Honda 302.7 S Aguri-Honda 304.1 +1.4 +0.46
9. T Rosso-Cosworth 305.1 T Rosso-Ferrari 305.5 +0.4 +0.13
10. BMW Sauber-BMW 306.3 BMW Sauber-BMW 305.5 -0.8 -0.26
11. Renault 311.9 Renault 308.2 -4.4 -1.41
2007 speed trap data from:
http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2007/785/6445/speed_trap.html
The second table (above) ranks the 11 teams in order of the largest increase in
top speed, with Toyota making the biggest advance at Shanghai, and Renault the
smallest. (At some events some teams have failed to better their top speed from
last year.
Here are the rankings at each 2007 event to date together with the average
ranking for the season to date.
1 2 3 4 5 6 USA FRA GBR Eur HUN TUR ITA CHN Avge.
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1. Super Aguri-Honda 2 1 1 1 10 2 9 2 2 1 9 1 1 8 3.57 -
2. Williams-Toyota 8 6 2 4 5 6 4 1 4 6 2 2 10 2 4.43 +
3. T Rosso-Ferrari 4 2 4 5 3 8 2 6 1 3 1 8 9 3 4.64 -
4. Red Bull-Renault 6 9 3 3 9 1 1 3 5 2 7 9 11 7 5.43 -
5. Toyota 5 4 5 8 7 9 6 7 8 8 5 6 3 1 5.86 +
6. Spyker-Ferrari 1 8 10 2 6 6 4 9 6 5 10 7 8 3 6.07 +
7. McLaren-Mercedes 10 10 9 6 2 5 11 8 3 7 4 3 2 6 6.14 +
8. Honda 7 7 8 7 4 11 3 5 7 4 11 5 4 5 6.29 +
9. BMW Sauber-BMW 11 11 7 9 1 3 10 4 9 9 6 4 5 10 7.07 -
10. Renault 9 5 11 10 8 4 7 10 9 11 3 10 6 11 8.14 -
Ferrari 3 3 6 11 11 10 8 11 11 10 8 11 7 4 8.14 +
Note: The Belgian GP did not take place in 2006 so there is no comparison
possible. Similarly the Japanese GP moved from Suzuka to Fuji rendering any
comparison meaningless.
Note: Toro Rosso, Williams, Red Bull & Spyker have all changed engine supplier
since 2006.
The + or - indicates a gain or loss in average since the last GP. A 'gain' is a
decrease in average and a 'loss' is an increase - obviously :-)
There have been some events where two teams were equal (to two decimals of
percentage difference) and have been ranked equally (BMW and Renault at
Silverstone is one example).
--
Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com